Don’t refer to her as anybody’s ex! Amber Rose is her own woman, with her own opinion and she’s not afraid to speak her mind. Hate it or love it, she is a pop culture phenomenon, a feminist badass and has created her own lane in TV, thanks to her new talk show, “The Amber Rose Show.” She is raw, unfiltered and uncut. She’s unapologetically free and loving it. Amber Rose recently sat down with Blame Ebro to discuss her new talk show coming to VH1 on July 8, her 2016 SlutWalk and so much more. The biggest takeaway? Always expect the unexpected when it comes to Muva Rosebud.
Blame Ebro: For a long time it has been rumored that you were coming to TV, you now have the talk show deal with VH1. What made you go the talk show route instead of the reality TV route that everyone is taking these days?
Amber Rose: Well, those reality tv rumors were just that, –rumors. I was never going to do reality TV. With reality TV you have to have your whole family involved, they [production team] have to be in your house, and I’m uncomfortable with that. I would much rather have a talk show because there are things that I have to say. I have a lot of really cool celebrity friends that are going to come on too. Plus, I wanted to have a show that was very sex positive –a no judgment zone. You know, a place where people can come ask questions and be unapologetically free and open. It works for me because that’s who I am.
Blame Ebro: As a woman who identifies as a feminist, how liberating is it for you to have this platform where you can openly discuss sex and what feminism means to you?
Amber Rose: It means the world to me. My talk show is under Dr. Phil [McGraw’s Stage 29 production company] and if he gets it, then I believe the rest of the world will get it as well. He has completely had my back throughout this entire process, and he fully understands my movement. This platform is where people can fully understand me as a person, and also get the answers they need about sex and relationships. We have really cool sex therapists that come on –they’re not your typical average Joe Schmoe therapists! They’re really cool, they’re really young, tatted up, fun people that not only went to school for it but experienced a lot of life as well. And I’m just thankful for VH1 and Dr. Phil for the opportunity.
Blame Ebro: Speaking of Dr. Phil, initially when people heard about the talk show, it made perfect sense that it was airing on VH1. It threw everyone for a loop when it was announced that Dr. Phil was an executive producer of “The Amber Rose Show.” When you think of him, you think Daytime TV, self-help and so on. So, how did you two come together for this talk show?
Amber Rose: Well, I did a segment for “The Doctors,” which is a daytime talk show under Dr. Phil’s production company as well, [the segment was] about slut shaming. Dr. Phil saw it and reached out to me, he said “Wow! Not only does the camera love you, but you really have a lot to say and you’re very smart and you just fucking get it,” and the thing with Dr. Phil is he helps people, and so do I! We just do it in different ways and he just saw my vision. He said “Wow, you need to be on TV, we need to do this,” and I said “Yo doc,” –I call him “doc.” [giggling] I said, “I need to be able to say exactly how I feel. So, I don’t know if daytime talk is for me.” Initially, it was supposed to be a daytime talk show, and then VH1 jumped on board.
Blame Ebro: Oh wow.
Amber Rose: Yup. I’ve been working on this show for a year! That’s what people don’t know. It’s been a year.
Blame Ebro: Right. Because talk show deals take a long time to develop.
Amber Rose: Well, that and I wasn’t willing to go to work every day and not be happy with my job. I needed a network that was going to understand me and allow me to speak the way I need to speak. VH1 was the perfect platform for that because you can pretty much say whatever you want! It’s cable tv, it’s not daytime. Everything just fell into place perfectly and the rest is history. Now I’m going to have a show and it’s going to be fucking sick! You guys are going to love it, I promise! [Laughing].
Blame Ebro: “The Amber Rose Show” is said to bring your “unique, unapologetic style, hustle and hilarious” point of view to re-invent late night. Besides discussions about sex and feminism, what kind of topics can we expect from you on the show?
Amber Rose: Well, the feminism part is who I am, and I’m the host so that just makes sense. My show is not just for women, my show is for men as well. It’s [the audience] split 50/50 -half men, half women. We encourage the audience to chime in, we encourage them to ask questions. We also talk about celebrity gossip as well. But, coming from a different place, because I actually live that life. I’m not disconnected from the celebrity world. These people we talk about are my peers and sometimes when I see things I’m like “Ok, everybody is blowing this story out of portion,” but I kinda know the truth because I’ve lived that already. So, the celebrity gossip we talk about comes from a different perspective because I live the same life as a lot of these people.
Blame Ebro: And a lot of times with talk shows the hosts can come from a malicious place, especially if they’re not enthused about a specific celebrity. So, I feel like because, like you said these are your peers, it definitely offers a different non-malicious perspective.
Amber Rose: Absolutely, I’m not a malicious person. It was really kinda bad for me when they started calling me the “Clapback Queen,” because that’s not my personality. I don’t start trouble, I usually take the high road in every situation and if I don’t I’m usually saying what I need to say to defend myself. I can only take so much as a person. So it never comes from a negative, malicious part of me. I’m not that girl, and my show is a positive, safe space for people to come. Also, every show I have a celebrity guest and I ask them some crazy sexual questions. And they know that I’m going to ask them -they don’t know what questions I’m going to ask, but they know I’m going to ask some real shit. [Laughing]
Blame Ebro: Speaking of the celebrity guest, who can we expect on “The Amber Rose Show”?
Amber Rose: You have to tune in to find out! It’s a surprise. It’s top secret for sure. [Laughing]
Blame Ebro: I wanted to switch gears for a minute, and talk about your book, “How To Be A Bad Bitch.” It’s been eight months since its release, can we expect a follow up to come or anymore books from you?
Amber Rose: Yes, absolutely! Right now, probably not. It took me a year to write that book. It’s very time-consuming. At that point in my life that was the perfect time for me to write that book. The really cool thing people don’t know about the book is that a book is like an album, so you have your initial first week, everyone buys it and then it dies down… But with “How To Be A Bad Bitch,” I literally sold the same amount week after week just from word of mouth. So girls would read it and say “Oh my God, I didn’t expect for it to be this empowering,” and it really helped a lot of people, especially a lot of women through rough times. It’s still constantly selling, which is amazing. So until everyone in the world has a copy, I’m not going to write another book. [Laughing] Nah, not that deep, but maybe in another year, I’ll write another one.
Blame Ebro: Last year was your first SlutWalk in Los Angeles. This year you’re doing one in L.A. and in Brooklyn, I believe?
Amber Rose: Yes, initially I wanted to do Brooklyn. The SlutWalk is under my nonprofit, we fund the SlutWalk off of donations and sponsorship. So, to do LA and Brooklyn was too much. It cost too much because my SlutWalk isn’t just a walk. We have a safe space for women to come and wear what they want to wear. Security costs a lot, street permits, tents and all kinds of amenities. Toilets. You have to have toilets -all that stuff costs money. So, we really depend on donations and sponsors, and this year was a bit too late to do Brooklyn, so we’re just going to do L.A. on October 1.
Blame Ebro: SlutWalks have been thrown in the Canada and the US since 2011, how do you think your SlutWalk will impact the destruction of slut shaming and rape culture?
Amber Rose: I think it does in a lot of ways. There’s a lot of women who approach me in the streets, especially in L.A. and they say “I took my boyfriend to your SlutWalk last year and he treats me better now. And he understands a lot more and he heard stories of women getting rape, victimized and slut shamed,” and there are other cases like where a girl who brought her mom. She wasn’t necessarily close with her mom, her mom was judgmental towards her and her brother could do no wrong. Now she and her mother are close because of the SlutWalk. When you come to the SlutWalk you become very enlightened. You understand what it is and you look past the name of it. It wasn’t my idea, it was around [before mine], I just embraced the idea. But to take someone else’s idea and change the name of it is extremely disrespectful and I wasn’t willing to do that. I flew the founders of SlutWalk on my personal dime to come out last year and thanked them personally, on stage in front of everybody for starting this. It’s a cool experience and anyone who comes will have their life changed.
Blame Ebro: I think that’s where the disconnect comes in. When people hear “Sultwalk” they automatically assume it has to do with being promiscuous. They are unaware of the comments made by the Toronto Police to York University students that started this entire movement. And they don’t understand there were slut walks before you and your entire purpose for the Slutwalk is to empower women. Which a lot of people hate. And it sends a message to men, no matter what I wear or how much I’ve had to drink, you don’t have the right to have your way with me.
Amber Rose: And that’s the misconception! There are so many women who are raped with burkas on, that are fully covered, girls in sweatsuits get raped. So it’s not just “Oh hey, she has on a short skirt in the club, she definitely wants to fuck me tonight.” If I don’t invite you to come fuck me tonight, I don’t want you to! It’s not an invitation, regardless of what I have on. It’s a simple Google! That’s the only thing that pisses me off. Google is your friend! People want to constantly write fucked up shit about SlutWalk, people want to say “Oh, she’s promoting young girls to be promiscuous and have unprotected sex and get STDs.” Like why the fuck would I do that? Why would I have 11.2 million followers [on Instagram] if that was the case. People would be like “Yo, what are you doing?” that’s number one. And number two… I don’t talk to little girls. I talk to grown women. SlutWalk is over the age of 18, I talk to the mothers! They can then go back and teach their children what they want to teach their children. I am not anyone’s mom, but Sebastian’s. I’m not here to raise your kids for you. It’s ridiculous. If you don’t get it [SlutWalk’s purpose] after a Google search, it’s not my problem.
Blame Ebro: How do you feel when people try to attack you for identifying as feminist, –specifically, those who say you’re not a feminist because you don’t fit the “mold” of what they believe a feminist should be?
Amber Rose: Well, one… if a woman says it to me, I immediately laugh because it’s funny as fuck! For another woman to say that to me is such a contradiction. You’re telling me I’m not a feminist and you’re literally going in on me when I’m here to help women. You don’t have to like everything that I talk about, but there are different types of feminists. There are conservative feminists, there are activist feminists like myself, there are pro-black feminist from the 70s that lived a very different life than the feminists of today. There are white lesbian feminists that just fucking hate men, that’s not my type of feminism, but I think we all kinda want the same end goal, we just go about it different ways and that’s ok. At my Slutwalk I had all of the above. I had porn stars there. Almost every single person uses porn at their convenience, but when they see a porn star, they are automatically disgusted by them. When you’re home alone, you want to turn on a porn and masturbate, but then you want to down them afterward. It’s bullshit, it’s ridiculous. It really depends on society’s standards. If a guy takes you on a date, buys popcorn, takes you out to the movies, takes you out to eat, does this and that, his end goal is probably to have sex with you that night, right? So, what’s the difference from him spending all that money on you or taking his money, handing it to you and saying “Look, I wanna have sex!” Only society is telling you that’s the wrong way to do it, that’s it. No one can tell you. Society is always frowning at that action, but really it’s just the same end goal, you just go about it a different way. It’s such a contradiction, it’s really ridiculous. We may not all have the same views as far as feminism goes, but we really want the same end goal and that’s equality for women. It’s the most important thing.
Blame Ebro: Describe what it mean to be unapologetically yourself.
Amber Rose: Just being an open book. Not having skeletons in your closet. There’s nothing more free than letting everything out, so no one can bother you anymore. Being very secure in what you like, what you’re into and who you like, where you want to go in life, what you want to do in life. To be an open book, it’s nothing more amazing, there’s nothing more freeing.
“The Amber Rose Show” premieres July 8 at 11pm on VH1.